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AIDS and health care
Posted by
Jessica Mayo
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December 01, 2007
I think that the health care issue is a huge first step on the conversation about AIDS. Even if it isn't covered directly, the health of our communities is a huge concern. And with community values, we make a special effort to recognize that the concerns of our neighbor with AIDS, or our neighbor without health care, are our concerns, as well.
The demands of the AIDS movement are more than treatment
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
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December 01, 2007
I totally agree that the best thing that we can do to provide treatment for people living with AIDS is to have real, universal healthcare (single payer, government paid at that).
But AIDS is more than that. It is also about prevention and talking about means talking about the culture wars. Distributing condoms, honestly talking about sex, realizing that some people are queer, talking about drug use and recognizing that we live with drug users.
That's why those of us who work with community groups that address AIDS make a big deal about recognizing World AIDS Day. We want our friends and neighbors to do more.
But AIDS is more than that. It is also about prevention and talking about means talking about the culture wars. Distributing condoms, honestly talking about sex, realizing that some people are queer, talking about drug use and recognizing that we live with drug users.
That's why those of us who work with community groups that address AIDS make a big deal about recognizing World AIDS Day. We want our friends and neighbors to do more.
it's happening
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
Live from the floor, it’s moments before the event begins. The hall is filling, late arrivals slowed by the snow and sleet. Folks are chanting from the floor, music is playing, excitement is building. Grassroots leaders are on the dais, ready to share the stage with the candidates and ready to tell their stories. Here we go!
Heartland Prez Forum
Posted by
Michael HoRNADAY
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December 01, 2007
The Forum looks so great on webcast!! I wonder who is doing the webcast? Great jobs folks!
Hope for regular people - Kucinich is the one!
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
Look at Dennis Kucinich's record - read his BRAND NEW BOOK "The Courage to Survive" - just released. Get this book and study it, and get excited because this story is OUR STORIES. All of us regular people in this country now have a voice in this person.
Listen carefully to what Dennis Kucinich is saying, between the lines, during his pauses, listen to the heart and soul of his responses.
We have reason for hope in this country knowing that a person who has such high values and qualifications to lead this country toward peace, prosperity, FAIR TRADE, universal health care, and a U.S. Department of Peace.
This country is ready for such a leader as Dennis Kucinich. We need to support his candidacy in every possible way. Tell everyone you meet about him and invite them to go to his web site -
www.dennis4president.com
You
Listen carefully to what Dennis Kucinich is saying, between the lines, during his pauses, listen to the heart and soul of his responses.
We have reason for hope in this country knowing that a person who has such high values and qualifications to lead this country toward peace, prosperity, FAIR TRADE, universal health care, and a U.S. Department of Peace.
This country is ready for such a leader as Dennis Kucinich. We need to support his candidacy in every possible way. Tell everyone you meet about him and invite them to go to his web site -
www.dennis4president.com
You
Hope VS. Fear
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
Here is a reply to my comment -
Ask yourself this question: "Do I feel better when I am hopeful or when I am fearful?"
This message of hope which Dennis Kucinich is heralding all across this country is the loudest voice to listen to now. His track record is proof - read about when he was Mayor of Cleveland and how he would not see Muny Electric, go read this on his web site. The other candidates all have excellent qualities, of course. Some are more transparent about their past than others, and some are desirous of winning the U. S. Presidency for reasons which do not support HOPE and PEACE and FAIRNESS, as Dennis Kucinich represents.
Read his book "The Courage to Survive". This book should move up to the #1 position on the NY Times Best Seller list quickly and WE, THE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT BY BUYING IT, READING IT AND RECOMMENDING EVERYONE ELSE DO THIS.
You
Ask yourself this question: "Do I feel better when I am hopeful or when I am fearful?"
This message of hope which Dennis Kucinich is heralding all across this country is the loudest voice to listen to now. His track record is proof - read about when he was Mayor of Cleveland and how he would not see Muny Electric, go read this on his web site. The other candidates all have excellent qualities, of course. Some are more transparent about their past than others, and some are desirous of winning the U. S. Presidency for reasons which do not support HOPE and PEACE and FAIRNESS, as Dennis Kucinich represents.
Read his book "The Courage to Survive". This book should move up to the #1 position on the NY Times Best Seller list quickly and WE, THE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT BY BUYING IT, READING IT AND RECOMMENDING EVERYONE ELSE DO THIS.
You
Lost respect for Kucinich in Iowa
Posted by
Justin Andrews
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December 01, 2007
I lost respsect for Kucinich in Iowa when he threw his supporters behind Edwards (Pro War at the time) to block Howard Dean (against the war in case you don't remember).
I appreciate many of his positions but i've seen/heard far too many examples of his hipocracy. There is also the practical matter of having a snowballs chance in hell of winning the nomination.
I appreciate many of his positions but i've seen/heard far too many examples of his hipocracy. There is also the practical matter of having a snowballs chance in hell of winning the nomination.
Right Now, Today, Is Where We Are, Not in 2004
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
Justin, I respect your views, yes, I was disappointed when Dennis did this, threw his support near the end of the 2004 elections. Since I do not have the 'inside' of WHY he did this, I must move forward today and ask if his strength is authentic for NOW.
We all must look at who he is today - let's ask him about this issue and hear what he says about this.
It is pointless to hold a grude and let this color what is real for today. Let's ask Dennis what he would do in a similar situation for this election.
He will have a chance ONLY if enough people have the vision of a new path for our country can HAPPEN and it can happen much quicker if Kucinish is in the White House. He is strong now, more than ever. Meet the moment with courage and read his new book.
You
We all must look at who he is today - let's ask him about this issue and hear what he says about this.
It is pointless to hold a grude and let this color what is real for today. Let's ask Dennis what he would do in a similar situation for this election.
He will have a chance ONLY if enough people have the vision of a new path for our country can HAPPEN and it can happen much quicker if Kucinish is in the White House. He is strong now, more than ever. Meet the moment with courage and read his new book.
You
examples please
Posted by
David Agnew
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December 01, 2007
of Kucinich's hypocrisy?
I think he's been very consistent for decades, but I'm glad to listen.
I think he's been very consistent for decades, but I'm glad to listen.
Jesus
Posted by
Ira Chernus
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December 01, 2007
It's fine to include the religious community in the political process. But this seems a bit extensive, especially praying in the name of "Jesus," which might certainly alienate some significant part of the body politic, especially among progressives whose help is so crucial to move society in a more community-oriented direction. Should we perhaps want a more inclusive program and a more inclusive invocation here?
Jesus and Friends
Posted by
James Mumm
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December 01, 2007
The closing prayer will be given by a Native American leader. Given the focus of the program on real people telling real stories, there was not time to conduct prayers in all of the major religious traditions. However, many people in attendance are people of faith and the opening and closing prayers recognize the central role of faith in the grassroots leaders who planned and attended the forum. I work in an interfaith organization, with people of Christian, Muslim, and Jewish faiths...and people with a secular belief in democracy and the inherent goodness of humanity. We often have prayers and we have built such a powerful community among each other that when we pray in a particular religious tradition we are valuing that tradition by giving it room for its full expression. We also recognize that while our faiths may differ by denomination, they share common core beliefs in equality, dignity, and the common good. They recognize that they share community values. And I think that's something we can all agree upon, no matter our faith or secular tradition.
Everyone's on Stage
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
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December 01, 2007
What was nice is that the religious leader who started us off was recently in the NY Times because she is a lesbian.
It's nice to see that we are all on stage along with Jesus.
It's nice to see that we are all on stage along with Jesus.
Including Everyone
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
Ira, yup, let's focus on 'inclusion', inviting many voices and opinions for spiritual well-being.
Heartland Presidential Forum
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
While it is obvious that the Iowa Caucuses are the reason for the event, the issues that bring people here are not issues that will be resolved on Jan. 3, nor through the national election, nor even through the administration of America's next president.
This is about taking advantage of the occasion of the Iowa Caucuses to remind us of the cornerstone values that keep our families, communities and nation from collapsing under the burdens of poverty, racisim and greed. Let us hope this forum more deeply embeds these values in our actions from here on out. If it should influence the outcome of the election, so much the better.
This is about taking advantage of the occasion of the Iowa Caucuses to remind us of the cornerstone values that keep our families, communities and nation from collapsing under the burdens of poverty, racisim and greed. Let us hope this forum more deeply embeds these values in our actions from here on out. If it should influence the outcome of the election, so much the better.
Completely agree!
Posted by
Dennis Chin
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December 01, 2007
I'd like to emphasize the point that this Forum isn't just about the 2008 elections. It goes beyond that. It's about real, everyday people and lifting their voices into the national discourse.
Am I the only one?
Posted by
Justin Andrews
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December 01, 2007
Wishing we could get on with the debate already?
Or am I going to have to sit through another hour and a half of prayer, back slapping and grandstanding? I'm really interesting in what the candidates have to say I just hope they get to that portion of things before the Oklahoma vs. Missouri game comes on tonight.
I wonder what the ratio of intro time to candidate talk time will be. Anyone out there keeping track. So far we're approaching 30 minutes of intro's and we haven't even introduced the candidates yet.
Or am I going to have to sit through another hour and a half of prayer, back slapping and grandstanding? I'm really interesting in what the candidates have to say I just hope they get to that portion of things before the Oklahoma vs. Missouri game comes on tonight.
I wonder what the ratio of intro time to candidate talk time will be. Anyone out there keeping track. So far we're approaching 30 minutes of intro's and we haven't even introduced the candidates yet.
Introductions
Posted by
Ira Chernus
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December 01, 2007
I think it's really important for the candidates to hear all thes real people who are speaking, with real people's concerns. When else will these candidates have to hear this message, and all the applause it is receiving? Hopefully this makes an impression on them.
People talking
Posted by
Jessica Mayo
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December 01, 2007
These first 30 minutes might be the most important part of the entire event. This is all about real people and community values. This event is pushing candidates outside the arena of a debate that focuses merely on the candidates' ability to spar with each other. Instead, we are seeing that the people are more important than the politicians. The politicians are just here to represent us, so they should listen more than they should talk.
You're not alone
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
I am so happy to be able to come here--but I agree, it's hard to sit through all the cheerleading. Especially because I hate noisy rooms. But my husband says I'm being a Crab Blogger, so that's all I'll say about that, and from here on in I am commenting only on substance!
I want real change
Posted by
John Kennedy
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December 01, 2007
Please somebody tell me this thing has not been cooked for Clinton already
Powerful Elite Puppeteers
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
Who moves into the White House has been orchestrated for years by powerful forces unseen by the public.
Ms. Clinton has some powerful support. Why? Who does she answer to and why? What's really in it for Ms. Clinton?
They all can make themselves sound good - let's read and listen between the words.
You
Ms. Clinton has some powerful support. Why? Who does she answer to and why? What's really in it for Ms. Clinton?
They all can make themselves sound good - let's read and listen between the words.
You
values . . .
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
Values. What are they? Are they the stuff with which we label families “good” or “bad”? Or are they rooted in a sense of community – in what Deepak Bhargava noted is rooted in the old adage that we should love our neighbors as we love ourselves?
When some suggest that we should vote our values, this is often meant as a threat to progressive forces. But we should be stressing the values of community and connection – it is what people long for.
People are also hoping for a higher level of discourse. When our moderators announced that the candidates had agreed not to attack but converse, a hearty round of applause filled the hall.
When some suggest that we should vote our values, this is often meant as a threat to progressive forces. But we should be stressing the values of community and connection – it is what people long for.
People are also hoping for a higher level of discourse. When our moderators announced that the candidates had agreed not to attack but converse, a hearty round of applause filled the hall.
Mayor Villaraigosa
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Interesting to see Mayor Villaraigosa on the stage == apparently as part of the US Conference of Mayors. But, given that Clinton isn't showing (but is providing a video), all the more curious especially when we get to the post game press gaggles. Regardless, good to see strong Latino representation up there.
Energized by the crowd
Posted by
Kathy Partridge
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December 01, 2007
Wow! Even from my home living room, I could feel the energy of the diverse crowd as they stood up to affirm their power as organized citizens with a voice and role in the political process. Exciting to see the wide range of organizations and sectors who have come together
Go Kathy!
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Screw Anderson Cooper- It's about time we have a strong woman of color moderating a national debate. That is just one of the tens of reasons this forum is setting a new trend for our values in the debate.
right on - finally we get to hear from Kucinich...
Posted by
stephen dohnberg
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December 01, 2007
without twits like Russert or the bots from the Clinton News Network belittling or inerrupting him...
and please note: Dennis has been consistent his entire career - all of the other candidates have cerrypicked from his platform...
can't wait to see Dennis!!
and please note: Dennis has been consistent his entire career - all of the other candidates have cerrypicked from his platform...
can't wait to see Dennis!!
No Caro Hears Edwards
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Heads are nodding here in No Carolina when we hear about home foreclosures, and we're clapping our hands at the idea that we should enforce clean air laws. The only problem? Well, Edwards it's easy to say that in Hyvee hall, let's take those promises to the white house.
Edwards mid-way
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
Edwards is hitting the themes that resonate here – and the phrase “tear down the wall” around Washington is choice. He also celebrated the role of social activists – although one wonders about the depth of the populist conversion. His real assets in speaking: he is counterposing the role of big corporations to democratic principles, and he is right to raise the issue of predatory lending. And the real asset of having these community leaders as questioners – they are forcing the questions and the answers.
There are 50 states
Posted by
Lola Tanaka
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December 01, 2007
And the boundaries of the U.S. extend into the Pacific Ocean....Once again, Hawaii and Alaska are ignored in the "who-all is here and look how far away they came from" rousing of the crowd. A contingent from Hawaii (and I'm sure Alaska) paid big bucks and traveled for hours to support the "hearland" efforts. It gets quite tiresome quite often as we try to participate in "national" events. (And I'm not one of the people who are there....) Thanks.
Going after business
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Johnny E. thinks corporations are too powerful! First two questions are on local farmers. Edwards taking ag-business questions and pointed it at predatory lending and saying that he will stand up to big corporations. What about organizing of farm workers? Going after business in the courtroom on the basis of trust busting is fine. But, take down one bad company and replace another without empowering the worker doesn't really get us very far.
Edwards Campaign
Posted by
Kathy Partridge
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December 01, 2007
Has Edwards being talking in such strong populist language throughout his campaign? Or is he just saying what this audience wants to hear? If this is what he has been saying everywhere, I wonder why he is generally running third in the polls. Is it because he does not sound believable? Or is this not the message that can win in this election? Or is he being done in by the corporate media? Any thoughts?
Re: Edwards Campaign
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
He has been saying things like he is saying today since the beginning of his campaign. In fact, I can't think of anything he is saying that I have not heard him say or read he has said in the newspaper.
The question the Register posed this week was how was it that he has shifted to the left since his first run in 2004. In fact, I think the Democrats are unable to run a viable candidate any further to the left of where Edwards always was, with the notable exception of Kucinich. (He is proof that having the right position on the issues is not enough to become president. That takes executive leadership.) I believe Edwards does both.
The question the Register posed this week was how was it that he has shifted to the left since his first run in 2004. In fact, I think the Democrats are unable to run a viable candidate any further to the left of where Edwards always was, with the notable exception of Kucinich. (He is proof that having the right position on the issues is not enough to become president. That takes executive leadership.) I believe Edwards does both.
Edwards
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
Edwards is playing well to the crowd, because the issues of the people in the forum are the very reason he is running. The focus of his approach is to take on the powerful interests and fight to restore a balance of power to the "demos", the people, which is what democracy means. This is pursuasive for many who have been fighting these interests for years and usually end up losing. How great would it be to have a president who would fight along side us?
My question is can you lead from a position that assumes you are on the "other side" or does the country need a person who can rise above the class conflict to unite the country?
My question is can you lead from a position that assumes you are on the "other side" or does the country need a person who can rise above the class conflict to unite the country?
Erica Fernandez
Posted by
Dennis Chin
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December 01, 2007
You go girl!!!
Couldn't have said it better.
Couldn't have said it better.
Answer the QUESTION Edwards!!!!!!!
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Come on, here in North Carolina, we are listening to what he is saying and he didn't answer their questions - he didn't listen to Ahmed Rehad's request for him to work with us... come on now Edwards, you can't get away that easily....
Love the stage dynamic
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Something very special about real people asking the questions that are important to them from the stage, not from the web, much less the audience. Forces the candidate to react on the same level as the person asking question and still pull back to their talking points. While Edwards has handled it well, if Bill Clinton was up there, he would have ambled across the stage and hugged each and every questioner by now...
Re: Love the stage dynamic
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
I agree. It brings the old adage, "All politics is local" to life.
What would Bill Clinton do?
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
One thing that may not be clear to those watching on the web or C-Span is that the candidates were requested to stay within a small box on the right side of the stage so the lighting and camera angles could be set in advance. That may be a constraining factor.
Clinton exposed
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
In the face of two questioners dealing with issues where Sen. Clinton is particularly vulnerable: NAFTA and Immigration. It was telling, that she went back to her stump speech points that show she is not supportive of serious NAFTA reform nor of serious Immigration reform.
criminalizing the poor and people of color
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
How powerful would we be if immigrant and black communities would come together to fight racial profiling-- together; to fight criminalization of poor people of color; to fight the "schools to prisons" pipeline.to fight profiteering of off putting people in prison-- whether they be Tyrone, Juan or Ahmed!
Good Questions so far
Posted by
Justin Andrews
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December 01, 2007
I've enjoyed the format and the questions thus far. It's been a nice recovery from what I viewed as a slow start to the event. I thought Edwards was able to connect with the room and brought a lot of energy to the forum.
Now let's see what Kucinich can do.
Now let's see what Kucinich can do.
Erica Fernandez for President!!!
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
Erica Fernandez for President. A seventeen year old student who was part of the struggle against a new liquefied natural gas facility in Ventura County, California, she spoke eloquently and passionately. And she did something I’ve never seen in a Presidential debate or forum: she raised the issue of environmental justice.
HERE HERE
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
I met folks from Oxnard and Erica is representing an amazing community!!!
Edwards' moral responsibility
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Edwards: "Will we leave America and the world better than we found it?" Talked a lot about responsibility, but not a lot about values, much less community values...
North Carolina want to hear about EDUCATION!!!
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Our public school system nationwide is in shambles. Our students are undereducated in math, sciences and languages and are unprepared for the challenges they will face in this global job market.
DREAM Act and Living WAGE
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Norht Carolina is feeling Kucinich's rant... but does he have the political capital to make it happen
Kucinich on immigration
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Love that Dennis K understands immigration in the context on international migration, global trade policy, and living wage - and does it all in English and Spanish.
kucinich is amazing
Posted by
super fag
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December 01, 2007
he is the smartest, kindest, strongest leader in this race.
he is a genius and has a heart of gold.
imagine our country with him as president - he would REALLY heal this nation, not just promise to.
he is a genius and has a heart of gold.
imagine our country with him as president - he would REALLY heal this nation, not just promise to.
Kucinich=pure heart
Posted by
stephen dohnberg
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December 01, 2007
he truly understands why things are the way they are - he put his own LIFE on the line to fight for what is right - and he has given direct answers and offered solutions that are workable to the questions offered him...!!
www.kucinich.us
LOVE this man!
voted against the war, the PATRIOT ACT, FOR Health Care for ALL, for open media for all...the list goes on...he has taken zero money from ANY Lobbyist or Corporate interest, and voted against electronic voting machines...
he's the only true alternative, the only real choice that see through the haze!
www.kucinich.us
LOVE this man!
voted against the war, the PATRIOT ACT, FOR Health Care for ALL, for open media for all...the list goes on...he has taken zero money from ANY Lobbyist or Corporate interest, and voted against electronic voting machines...
he's the only true alternative, the only real choice that see through the haze!
kunich is amazing
Posted by
dan phillips
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December 02, 2007
I very much share your approval of Dennis Kunich.. He reminds me Bill clinton with the confidence in where wants lead us.
Kucinich
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
Kucinich offers the best and most honest stance on immigration – and in Spanish to boot. But on the economy, he doesn’t really offer a vision, just a litany of policies. I had thought that he wasn’t catching on because he’s too far to the left. But while his strategies resonate with community values, he’s not really speaking the language of values. And I think that’s what we need right now – and it is what will allow us to connect with people of good will who do not share all our policy preferences.
Kucinich channeling Sharpton?
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
First time I've seen Kucinich speak. Lord knows he has been on the campaign trail for most of his adult life, but I have to admit he is more compelling than I expected. Over time as more people depend on the web for news and information from more and more sources, will it break down the filter of limited media outlets? One could argue that it is happening in the music industry as distribution becomes easier. Is campaigning all about distribution of a message? If so, maybe Kucinich 2020 will lead to victory.
2020?
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
When Dennis Kucinich is elected president this country will see such hope. If people everywhere were to hear Dennis Kucinich speak and read his new book "The Courage To Survive", this country will come alive.
We as a country and world cannot afford to NOT ELECT Dennis Kucinich - he really is the only candidate who has the depth and breath to make the necessary changes. Waiting for 2020 to come around to elect Dennis Kucinich is folly.
You
We as a country and world cannot afford to NOT ELECT Dennis Kucinich - he really is the only candidate who has the depth and breath to make the necessary changes. Waiting for 2020 to come around to elect Dennis Kucinich is folly.
You
Kucinich
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
Kucinich presents a compelling vision, but in his very appealing details (transportation focus moving from cars to mass transit) I can just imagine layers and layers of the existing functionaries dragging their feet, coming up with reasons why it can't be done, etc.
He's so totally right about single-payer health care and impeachment of the vice president, though. Why, why doesn't he get taken seriously?
He's so totally right about single-payer health care and impeachment of the vice president, though. Why, why doesn't he get taken seriously?
He IS Taken Seriously By People Who Understand Honesty
Posted by
You You
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December 01, 2007
He is a threat, a very real threat to the established powers. He was in 2004 as well. His positions on important issues are going to remove a great many people in positions of power and influence.
He will take this country on a very healthy path. It will require change and those in power do not want to relinquish this. And the media will keep ignoring Dennis Kucinich as long as it does not hear from REGULAR PEOPLE who support what he stands for. The people must get out and work for the Kucinich campaign in large numbers - wear buttons, have bumper stickers, speak with everyone about him.
H will be taken seriously as soon as WE THE PEOPLE rise with hope and support this beacon of hope. We must help him reclaim this country from the grips of greed and self-serving policies devoid of heart and true compassion.
He will prevail if we BELIEVE this and act on this.
You
He will take this country on a very healthy path. It will require change and those in power do not want to relinquish this. And the media will keep ignoring Dennis Kucinich as long as it does not hear from REGULAR PEOPLE who support what he stands for. The people must get out and work for the Kucinich campaign in large numbers - wear buttons, have bumper stickers, speak with everyone about him.
H will be taken seriously as soon as WE THE PEOPLE rise with hope and support this beacon of hope. We must help him reclaim this country from the grips of greed and self-serving policies devoid of heart and true compassion.
He will prevail if we BELIEVE this and act on this.
You
Kucinich is electable
Posted by
Jim McKeever
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December 01, 2007
Why are some people saying Dennis Kucinich isn’t electable? I’ve heard reasons like he looks wimpy and is to short, or he’s a socialist.
First, I thought this was America the land of opportunity, isn’t saying someone looks funny and is to short for an administrative job a form of discrimination? What does height and looks have to do with important decision making abilities? The answer of course is nothing, that is if one has a degree of intelligence and can think for themselves. Perhaps, one who wouldn’t vote for someone solely based on looks, should consider applying for a position on Jay Leno’s All Stars. Unforunately this type of thinking about people is prevalent in our country and needs confrontation with logic and intelligence.
Second, Kucinich is not a socialist. Socialism is looked at as a poison by some in this country. The facts are, many forms of socialism already exist in our country. A couple examples would be the police or fire departments. They are owned, funded collectively, and run by communities. What is social security, the program that has helped millions through the years but socialized retirement. President Franklin Roosevelt instigated the Social Security System was he a socialist? The answer is of course is he wasn’t. However, Roosevelt and others realized there is a place for socialistic principles to have a positive effect in certain areas of society. This type of thinking about socialism always being horrible exists in our country and needs to be confronted by logic and intelligence.
The other day, I saw a picture of a young lady with a coy smile on her face. She was with a tall handsome presidential canidate with his arm around her. I could see she was charmed, and I thought she probably will vote for him. In the past, I recall people excitedly telling me they had met a political canidate and had shook their hand. Later they told me they voted for that canidate. Is shaking hands or being allured a reason to vote for a canidate? Of course not, that is if your intelligence isn’t compromised by pretentious charm. Well guess what folks, this type of irrational, and emotional voter reasoning is also prevalent in our country. People are influenced by all sorts of irrational commercials, and various media adds. Whatever happened to critical and rational thinking? Are we just a country of people highly suggestable to glittery influences? I don’t think we are when using logic and rational thought in considering candidates for political office.
The above types of thinking processes are not only irrational but self defeating. The only way to alleviate faulty thinking is through confrontative logic and intelligence. There are other types of problems across the political spectrum needed to be dealt with also, like corporate influenced media favoritism towards candidates or issues. Anyone with a lick of logic can see that going on. Our country needs intelligent, rational and honest leaders to confront and fix these problems.
Dennis Kucinich is electable just like anyone could be. I believe he is worth listening to with an open mind. His views on all of the issues are logical and in the best interest of the people in this country. Mr. Kucinich is genuine, honest, logical, wise, and not influenced by corporate or special interests. I believe he is the type of canidate with the qualities necessary to confront and fix serious problems in our country. An intelligent and rational voter, will listen to what he says, look at his record and make an informed decision.
Sincerely Jim McKeever
First, I thought this was America the land of opportunity, isn’t saying someone looks funny and is to short for an administrative job a form of discrimination? What does height and looks have to do with important decision making abilities? The answer of course is nothing, that is if one has a degree of intelligence and can think for themselves. Perhaps, one who wouldn’t vote for someone solely based on looks, should consider applying for a position on Jay Leno’s All Stars. Unforunately this type of thinking about people is prevalent in our country and needs confrontation with logic and intelligence.
Second, Kucinich is not a socialist. Socialism is looked at as a poison by some in this country. The facts are, many forms of socialism already exist in our country. A couple examples would be the police or fire departments. They are owned, funded collectively, and run by communities. What is social security, the program that has helped millions through the years but socialized retirement. President Franklin Roosevelt instigated the Social Security System was he a socialist? The answer is of course is he wasn’t. However, Roosevelt and others realized there is a place for socialistic principles to have a positive effect in certain areas of society. This type of thinking about socialism always being horrible exists in our country and needs to be confronted by logic and intelligence.
The other day, I saw a picture of a young lady with a coy smile on her face. She was with a tall handsome presidential canidate with his arm around her. I could see she was charmed, and I thought she probably will vote for him. In the past, I recall people excitedly telling me they had met a political canidate and had shook their hand. Later they told me they voted for that canidate. Is shaking hands or being allured a reason to vote for a canidate? Of course not, that is if your intelligence isn’t compromised by pretentious charm. Well guess what folks, this type of irrational, and emotional voter reasoning is also prevalent in our country. People are influenced by all sorts of irrational commercials, and various media adds. Whatever happened to critical and rational thinking? Are we just a country of people highly suggestable to glittery influences? I don’t think we are when using logic and rational thought in considering candidates for political office.
The above types of thinking processes are not only irrational but self defeating. The only way to alleviate faulty thinking is through confrontative logic and intelligence. There are other types of problems across the political spectrum needed to be dealt with also, like corporate influenced media favoritism towards candidates or issues. Anyone with a lick of logic can see that going on. Our country needs intelligent, rational and honest leaders to confront and fix these problems.
Dennis Kucinich is electable just like anyone could be. I believe he is worth listening to with an open mind. His views on all of the issues are logical and in the best interest of the people in this country. Mr. Kucinich is genuine, honest, logical, wise, and not influenced by corporate or special interests. I believe he is the type of canidate with the qualities necessary to confront and fix serious problems in our country. An intelligent and rational voter, will listen to what he says, look at his record and make an informed decision.
Sincerely Jim McKeever
Kucinich was fantastic
Posted by
Justin Andrews
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December 01, 2007
That is going to be a tough act to follow.
Senator Clinton - Danger, Danger, Danger
Posted by
You You
at
December 01, 2007
Who is this person? Who has she associated with behind the scenes?? How does Senator Clinton compare with Representative Kucinich?
Kucinich hit the bullseye
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
While Edwards gave us lawerly answers in response to the environment, Kucinich touched all the right chords in responding to the questions of immigration, and the constitution.
How much money will he take out of the department of energy for research into new energy?
How much money will he take out of the department of energy for research into new energy?
South Carolina wants us to address racial inequity
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
People keep asking about racial profiling and civil rights. We want more than a pledge to change America, we want to know the candidates will change America and the current climate of racial inequality and injustice. Is this change a change in public policy? In the same way that every candidate seems to have a plan for how to change our health care system and foreign policy, but where is the plan to deal with racial inequity, division and hatred in America?
If you are committed to these issues, then where is your specific plan to impact change?
If you are committed to these issues, then where is your specific plan to impact change?
High Pitched Tone
Posted by
Justin Andrews
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December 01, 2007
Anyone else hearing the high pitched tone coming through the feed right now or is it only on my end?
Excellent Presentation
Posted by
Robert Steinhauser
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December 01, 2007
This forum is wonderful. An intelligent and important discussion. Dennis has the right attitude and the right answers.
agreed!
Posted by
David Agnew
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December 01, 2007
probably the useful important presidential 'debate' I've seen in decades. Love the way the community organizers, doing the real work that our government should be doing are featured.
Power to the People!
Power to the People!
Community Action
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
I am glad we are hearing a story from Community Action in Washington, though her question is about health care insurance. Community Action represents an underutilized resource to address some of these issues. I'd like the candidates to address how they would support, expand or reform Community Service Block Grants so Community Action can reclaim their community change agenda that was part of their origins in the 1960s.
Amazing people
Posted by
Jessica Mayo
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December 01, 2007
I don't think it matters what the candidates say today - it's inspiring to see all of the people here! They're really representing the ideas of the common good and the idea that we really are all in it together. They're demonstrating the power of personal stories. Our voices are being heard today. This is a victory for everyday people everywhere - politicians should always be responding to OUR agenda!
the people are inspiring-and Dennis is one of the people!
Posted by
stephen dohnberg
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December 01, 2007
Hillary is a robot representing nothing but the people who gave her the millions of dollars to secure their positions on K Street.
Dennis came up from the streets and poverty, a man who has a desire to serve and who remembers living in cars with his family - remembers his poverty and those who helped him...
Beware Hillary - she represents nothing for the "people", the real people.
Health care
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Access to health care is such a huge issue in our country. But, I just can't tell if it actually leads to voter intensity. The same could be said about education. Looking at '08, the R's are drowning out a real debate on these important issues by sniping at each other over immigration. Is there a real conversation happening among the D's on health care and education? Will it drive voter intensity to the point where it is a deciding factor? They are complicated issues and unless you are personally effected, they seem to be difficult to organize voters around. (Jobs and immigration are very personal to people and easy to organize around.) All to say, this is the challenge to organizers: deeply educate and organize voters around the tough but important issues of education and health care so candidates' on these positions are the deciding limit.
tax credit
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
I don't get the tax credit idea to make health insurance affordable. A lot of people don't have the cash on hand to get their medical care, and I would have thought Senator Clinton would have gotten the memo by now.
Dr. McFarlin is asking a really good question now about the failure of private insurance to make health care accessible.
So is Clinton saying that the tax credit thing just applies to people who want to keep private insurance?
Dr. McFarlin is asking a really good question now about the failure of private insurance to make health care accessible.
So is Clinton saying that the tax credit thing just applies to people who want to keep private insurance?
Clinton on Health Care
Posted by
Ira R. Chernus
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December 01, 2007
She dodged the doctor's question completely. Her plan would lock in the use of public money to support private insurance corporations that are making billions on health care, and she did not justify why she would do that.
Uninsured = Death
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
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December 01, 2007
Earlier this week, I went to see Senator Clinton in Des Moines. At the forum, which was focused on healthcare, a young organizer, named Kaytee Riek from Iowans for AIDS Action told a story about how her mother died only 3 months earlier because her mother was a small business owner, who couldn't afford healthcare.
Today, we heard about another senseless death. A son passed away because of lack of healthcare.
Clinton's proposal for improving access to healthcare includes opening up the same plan that congressmembers have.
Dr. Ron MacFarlane from Iowans for Community Improvement asked her why she is proposing an expanded public health insurance program. Dr. MacFarlane asked Clinton why she would REWARD the greed of corporate insurance agencies.
Clinton told him that she would expand Medicaid and that we make insurance companies change.
I suppose we will have to wait and see if the companies do change their practices. The question is, can our mothers and sons wait that long?
Today, we heard about another senseless death. A son passed away because of lack of healthcare.
Clinton's proposal for improving access to healthcare includes opening up the same plan that congressmembers have.
Dr. Ron MacFarlane from Iowans for Community Improvement asked her why she is proposing an expanded public health insurance program. Dr. MacFarlane asked Clinton why she would REWARD the greed of corporate insurance agencies.
Clinton told him that she would expand Medicaid and that we make insurance companies change.
I suppose we will have to wait and see if the companies do change their practices. The question is, can our mothers and sons wait that long?
Alternate Health Care Choices
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
We all know that current healthcare policies and drugs are not benefitting Americans. Plus, current medical practices and drugs may be prescribed for one ailment, but will often cause up to several side effects, and the initial ailment is never cured. My question is: Why can't alternative methods be incorporated into the medical field if one so desires.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hillary summed up:
Posted by
stephen dohnberg
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December 01, 2007
"I am in favour of all that..." (whispers - as long as it gets me elected and it's what people want to hear)...
Impeach!
Posted by
David Agnew
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December 01, 2007
I tuned in late, caught about half of John Edward's responses. I noticed that Dennis Kucinich's call for impeachment of Cheney seemed to get the greatest positive response, with, it appeared, everyone standing and cheering. As well they should. With a lawless administration, the legislature is powerless.
All of the discussion about empowering citizens, living wages, good and affordable education, universal healthcare, environmental responsibility, ALL of these things are moot if we don't end the war on Iraq, which has already cost us a trillion dollars. War on Iran would bring back the draft, could start WW III, and would impoverish this nation for decades.
If we don't impeach, we set the precedent about what we'll tolerate (like torture, spying on Americans, indefinite imprisonment without charge). We also pass on the powers of 'imperial presidency' to the next administration. It makes no difference which (primarily corporate) party that is, separation of powers is essential to our fragile democracy.
All of the discussion about empowering citizens, living wages, good and affordable education, universal healthcare, environmental responsibility, ALL of these things are moot if we don't end the war on Iraq, which has already cost us a trillion dollars. War on Iran would bring back the draft, could start WW III, and would impoverish this nation for decades.
If we don't impeach, we set the precedent about what we'll tolerate (like torture, spying on Americans, indefinite imprisonment without charge). We also pass on the powers of 'imperial presidency' to the next administration. It makes no difference which (primarily corporate) party that is, separation of powers is essential to our fragile democracy.
impeach
Posted by
dan phillips
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December 02, 2007
I could not agree more on impeachment.
My idea as to the reason that Nancy P. has taken impeachment off the table is a quid pro qou arrangment with Lieberman for his vote in the senate for leadership.
Dan P
My idea as to the reason that Nancy P. has taken impeachment off the table is a quid pro qou arrangment with Lieberman for his vote in the senate for leadership.
Dan P
Wasted talent
Posted by
Jessica Mayo
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December 01, 2007
The inability of our immigration system to provide a reasonable path to citizenship is, as the speaker just said, wasting talent. This is at the heart of the issue. We are all part of a community. And if we are wasting talent, not allowing people to fully contribute to our society, then we are not building our communities. We need a solution that will help us utilize all of this talent. Reforming the immigration system will benefit ALL of us, because our communities will be stronger when everyone in them has the opportunity to truly pursue the American dream.
Clinton, talk about the criminal justice system
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
another question from North Carolina:
clinton: In our jail system in the US, 40% of the inmate population have mental helath problems. What does the Senator plan to do about getting this population out of the jail system and into a mental health program to free up space for actual people that belong there.
clinton: In our jail system in the US, 40% of the inmate population have mental helath problems. What does the Senator plan to do about getting this population out of the jail system and into a mental health program to free up space for actual people that belong there.
Clinton- the question was first 100 days
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
That didn't cut it! That's right Billy- grab that microphone back. Clinton is evading the question...
Here in North Carolina, we had a room full of booooosssssss
Here in North Carolina, we had a room full of booooosssssss
Clinton probably wishes she was here...
Posted by
Ali Noorani
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December 01, 2007
Although, word is that while she can't make this event, she has decided to attend an event in town later tonight. Curious. As President, Clinton says she will work to pass comprehensive immigration reform. But, she and Obama voted for the Fence Act in 2006. Clinton avoided "The first 100 days" CIR question at the NCLR event, is doing it again and is getting roundly booed. Then again, maybe she is glad she isn't here....
Comments on Clinton . . . or not?
Posted by
Manuel Pastor
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December 01, 2007
I’m tempted to comment on Clinton – that’s the traditional show, of course. And you very seldom see (or hear) a candidate as roundly booed (her cautious answers on immigrant didn't go well with the crowd).
But the real story here is Patrice Devine Wilder and the story about her son, as well as the pressing follow-up by Deborah Greenwood of ABLE. The real star is Mayte, an undocumented immigrant student who has excelled in school and is excelling on stage, followed by Larry Ginter, a family farmer saying that “to save our national soul, we have to stop treating immigrants like common criminals.”
It’s the secret strength of this forum – as Ali Noorani blogged, the very setup is designed to equalize community voices and politicians. We also talk about speaking truth to power. That’s happening but we’re also hearing common sense being spoken to the powerful – and let’s hope some of it sticks in the national discourse.
But the real story here is Patrice Devine Wilder and the story about her son, as well as the pressing follow-up by Deborah Greenwood of ABLE. The real star is Mayte, an undocumented immigrant student who has excelled in school and is excelling on stage, followed by Larry Ginter, a family farmer saying that “to save our national soul, we have to stop treating immigrants like common criminals.”
It’s the secret strength of this forum – as Ali Noorani blogged, the very setup is designed to equalize community voices and politicians. We also talk about speaking truth to power. That’s happening but we’re also hearing common sense being spoken to the powerful – and let’s hope some of it sticks in the national discourse.
SC: Clinton, why'd you change position on driver's licenses?
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
Why did you, Senator Clinton, change or flip flop on your position about giving undocumented immigrants in New York state drivers licenses? How can we trust that you will actually prioritize comprehensive immigration reform, or will you just flip flop on that position too?
Political Opportunists
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
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December 01, 2007
Clinton can't be trusted. Her flip flop on NY's drivers licenses resulted in the reversal of an amazing, progressive law that would have helped thousands of NYers. Our state's Senator should be ashamed.
Who speaks better Spanish?
Posted by
Julia Rendon
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December 01, 2007
Dodd has the better accent but Kucinich spoke longer. Both make a lot more sense in Spanish and English than the other Spanish speaker: George W. Bush!
Path to Citizenship in 100 Days
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
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December 01, 2007
It's been a long time since I've heard an Irish brogue in politics. As an Irish-American I was proud that the question from the Irish leader from Chicago was about recognizing that we need a leader who will guarantee a path to citizenship for ALL people here in the United States. And that we can't be divided. These are the kind of values that I was raised with.
We are seeing, right before our eyes, that an injury to one is an injury to all.
The audience didn't like Clinton's response! She tried to claim she wouldn't have the power as President to create legislation that would protect the people living here.
I'm not sure if she's Irish, but I'm glad that there was SOMEONE I could proud of, cuz I sure wasn't proud of her.
We are seeing, right before our eyes, that an injury to one is an injury to all.
The audience didn't like Clinton's response! She tried to claim she wouldn't have the power as President to create legislation that would protect the people living here.
I'm not sure if she's Irish, but I'm glad that there was SOMEONE I could proud of, cuz I sure wasn't proud of her.
Tam Tran's story
Posted by
Nicola Wells
at
December 01, 2007
What Tam didn't say is that her home was raided because she testified in favor of the DREAM Act, upon the request of Chairwoman Zoe Loefgren, in front of the House Subcommittee on Immigration.
Immigration
Posted by
Julia Rendon
at
December 01, 2007
What this story does is uncover the myth that immigration is about legal and illegal status? It is about desirable and undesirable people using convoluted immigration law to create disparate impact for their own purposes.
It is also very moving to me to see immigrants from Hungary and Ireland standing up for other immigrants from Mexico and Southeast Asia.
It is also very moving to me to see immigrants from Hungary and Ireland standing up for other immigrants from Mexico and Southeast Asia.
great dialog
Posted by
Erich Riesenberg
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December 01, 2007
There is great dialog between the questioners and the candidates. Sure beats a youtube video and a professional middle guy or gal spinning the questions.
I was impressed by Edwards.
I was impressed by Edwards.
Immigration Here vs. Immigration on CNN debates
Posted by
Nicola Wells
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December 01, 2007
I watched CNN Youtube debates earlier this year on CNN. There, immigration was certainly a hot button issue, but questions circled only around "illegals" and "fences" there was no conversation about the real promise of immigration for the US, and the communities that enrich our country.
SI SE PUEDE!!!!!!!! Go On EMIRA and TAM!!!!!
SI SE PUEDE!!!!!!!! Go On EMIRA and TAM!!!!!
equal time for candidates
Posted by
Erich Riesenberg
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December 01, 2007
Sen Dodd just made the comment that this is the most time he has had to speak, relative to the other "debates." That is a great point, hopefully it will set the standard.
SC: Living Wage Question
Posted by
Nicola Wells
at
December 01, 2007
I am glad that Grassroots people get the opportunity to talk directly to the candidates. This again shows why we need a more open democracy and more open political process. Everyday citizens need to be able to express themselves to candidates and talk about real issues that matter.
Living in Columbia, SC there are many issues that matter to people in the communities here. How will you address the issue of health disparities that severely impact the African American community?
What will you do to stop the high rate of housing foreclosure that has been happening to many people that have just acquired their American Dream of home ownership?
What is your plan to create living wage jobs in places like South Carolina where textiles have gone away because of NAFTA! We need living wage jobs not 7 dollars or 9 dollars but 15 dollars an hour! What will you do about that
Frank White
Columbia, SC
Living in Columbia, SC there are many issues that matter to people in the communities here. How will you address the issue of health disparities that severely impact the African American community?
What will you do to stop the high rate of housing foreclosure that has been happening to many people that have just acquired their American Dream of home ownership?
What is your plan to create living wage jobs in places like South Carolina where textiles have gone away because of NAFTA! We need living wage jobs not 7 dollars or 9 dollars but 15 dollars an hour! What will you do about that
Frank White
Columbia, SC
What do you think about community values?
Posted by
Jessica Mayo
at
December 01, 2007
We’re over halfway through, and we’ve heard a lot about community values. What do you think about how these issues – healthcare, immigration, the environment, clean elections, and fair housing – connect to community values? What other issues tie in?
Fear and Hate
Posted by
Jennifer Flynn
at
December 01, 2007
Senator Dodd points out that anti-immigration policy is about fear and hate.
To paraphrase from the racist Presidential Candidate and right wing nut Tom Tancredo's ad that is running here in Iowa,
Senator Dodd, I approve this message, because someone has to say it!
To paraphrase from the racist Presidential Candidate and right wing nut Tom Tancredo's ad that is running here in Iowa,
Senator Dodd, I approve this message, because someone has to say it!
Who is most embarrassed by this forum?
Posted by
Julia Rendon
at
December 01, 2007
Even though the status quo, vigorously defended by the Bush Administration, has been subjected to many attacks this afternoon, who should feel most embarrassed should be the media. Their ridiculous debates with their controlled access to candidates, their decontextualized questions, their gotcha approach to issues, looking for the headline while the people perish.
They are capable of telling these stories every day on the pages of their newspapers or on their radio and TV news programs, but they ignore them. They are capable of asking candidates these pointed questions. They are capable of pointing out the utter hypocrisy of "family values" promoters who ignore the real values of democracy, fairness, justice and human solidarity. But they do none of these things. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Thank you, Heartland Presidential Forum, for bringing this all to light. Now go home and see which TV and cable stations actually cover what happened here this afternoon. See which newspaper actually write a story about what happened here. That will tell you all you need to know.
They are capable of telling these stories every day on the pages of their newspapers or on their radio and TV news programs, but they ignore them. They are capable of asking candidates these pointed questions. They are capable of pointing out the utter hypocrisy of "family values" promoters who ignore the real values of democracy, fairness, justice and human solidarity. But they do none of these things. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Thank you, Heartland Presidential Forum, for bringing this all to light. Now go home and see which TV and cable stations actually cover what happened here this afternoon. See which newspaper actually write a story about what happened here. That will tell you all you need to know.
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